Comments on: 1967 24 Hours of Daytona Photo Gallery http://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/ Sports Car Digest focuses on Classic Car Auctions, Concours d’Elegance, Vintage Car Racing, Road Rallies and other historic automotive events. Wed, 16 May 2012 23:38:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: John Cumminshttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-101670 John Cummins Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:25:16 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-101670 I would love to see some stories on the lower classes in the sixties. The Ford Cortina GT, Lotus Cortina, MGB and C, Triumph Spitfires and of course Alfa Romeo GTV. Daytona and Sebring saw many of these great cars as well as others show their stuff. I would love to see some stories on the lower classes in the sixties. The Ford Cortina GT, Lotus Cortina, MGB and C, Triumph Spitfires and of course Alfa Romeo GTV. Daytona and Sebring saw many of these great cars as well as others show their stuff.

]]> By: John Gauerkehttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-55084 John Gauerke Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:19:18 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-55084 The guy behind Bandini is neither Amon, Scarfiotti, nor Parkes The guy behind Bandini is neither Amon, Scarfiotti, nor Parkes

]]> By: Jack Reynoldshttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-46950 Jack Reynolds Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:42:47 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-46950 Remember the days when the racing cars looked good? I want to watch the current Daytona prototypes but they are so awful I cannot bear it. They would be embarrassing on the street. Too bad, otherwise good racing. (Would anyone actually pay to sit in the stands?) Remember the days when the racing cars looked good? I want to watch the current Daytona prototypes but they are so awful I cannot bear it. They would be embarrassing on the street. Too bad, otherwise good racing. (Would anyone actually pay to sit in the stands?)

]]> By: Bill Gosserhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-13953 Bill Gosser Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:59:43 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-13953 In the months since my first posts on this fine blog, I've discovered quite a few additional sources of pictures of the event. In revisiting the ongoing forum today I thought I would look again for some additional views of the event, so I started with Google and entered "1967 daytona 24 hours photos", and WOW! I wasn't disappointed at all! Quite an interesting collection of pictures and videos. The first and most mind blowing to me was the photo at http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/4160555527/ which is clearer than being there -- a front view of the entire field coming off the bank to make the first pass in front of the grandstand at the start of the race. You can almost see Phil Hill and Dan Gurney smiling from behind the wheel on the front row, With the Ferraris of Bandini and Scarfiotti right behind. It is clear from some of the other photos, by the way, that both Bandini and Scarfiotti were wearing cream colored driving suits for this race, and of course may not have been driving at the start. I do remember that Phil Hill was, however.Within the various web addresses uncovered by the Google search recommended above, there are several pictures of the of the Chaparral 2F in action, in this race. After looking up the Chaparral on the Chaparral website, I had come to believe that the problem at Daytona was the 3 speed Powerglide vs. the 427 engine, rather than any problem with rubbish on the back straight. I can say that in the early morning hours, before sunrise, the car was locked in a pit garage with closed glass doors -- sort of posed there under soft white lights -- and I could see no evidence of any collision damage. No one seemed to know what had happened to it. Anyway they got it together for Brands Hatch, and I haven't heard any convincing alibis :)...It's not so much Ford vs. Chevy vs. Ferrari, as I see it, although that was interesting of course -- rather it was individuals vs. big corporations. Where would Ford have been without the likes of Colin Chapman, and Holman-Moody? Where would Chevrolet (aka GM) have been without Zora Arkus Duntov, and Jim Hall? AND where would automobile racing racing be without Enzo Ferrari welding motorcycle engines together to make racing car engines? What if Ferdinand Porsche had continued designing Tiger tanks instead of automobiles. What an era!Oh, if you double click on the photo you can download a higher res version (700x485). It's a fabulous picture!Best Regards to all... In the months since my first posts on this fine blog, I’ve discovered quite a few additional sources of pictures of the event. In revisiting the ongoing forum today I thought I would look again for some additional views of the event, so I started with Google and entered “1967 daytona 24 hours photos”, and WOW! I wasn’t disappointed at all! Quite an interesting collection of pictures and videos. The first and most mind blowing to me was the photo at http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/4160555527/
which is clearer than being there — a front view of the entire field coming off the bank to make the first pass in front of the grandstand at the start of the race. You can almost see Phil Hill and Dan Gurney smiling from behind the wheel on the front row, With the Ferraris of Bandini and Scarfiotti right behind. It is clear from some of the other photos, by the way, that both Bandini and Scarfiotti were wearing cream colored driving suits for this race, and of course may not have been driving at the start. I do remember that Phil Hill was, however.

Within the various web addresses uncovered by the Google search recommended above, there are several pictures of the of the Chaparral 2F in action, in this race. After looking up the Chaparral on the Chaparral website, I had come to believe that the problem at Daytona was the 3 speed Powerglide vs. the 427 engine, rather than any problem with rubbish on the back straight. I can say that in the early morning hours, before sunrise, the car was locked in a pit garage with closed glass doors — sort of posed there under soft white lights — and I could see no evidence of any collision damage. No one seemed to know what had happened to it. Anyway they got it together for Brands Hatch, and I haven’t heard any convincing alibis :) …

It’s not so much Ford vs. Chevy vs. Ferrari, as I see it, although that was interesting of course — rather it was individuals vs. big corporations. Where would Ford have been without the likes of Colin Chapman, and Holman-Moody? Where would Chevrolet (aka GM) have been without Zora Arkus Duntov, and Jim Hall? AND where would automobile racing racing be without Enzo Ferrari welding motorcycle engines together to make racing car engines? What if Ferdinand Porsche had continued designing Tiger tanks instead of automobiles. What an era!

Oh, if you double click on the photo you can download a higher res version (700×485). It’s a fabulous picture!

Best Regards to all…

]]> By: Bill Gosserhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9353 Bill Gosser Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:55:36 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9353 Revisiting the "who's that guy behind Lorenzo Bandini" discussion, I stumbled on an interesting video on youtube. It's titled "1967 24 Hours of Daytona - A Ferrari Sweep." It's a minute and a half long, and it's very interesting showing some footage of all of our favorite cars. The second scene at just a few seconds into the video covers a pit area conversation between Bandini, Scarfiotti and a young lady with an attractive bow in her hair. The fellers are clowning around for her benefit, and give considerable opportunity to recall their 1967 lady chasing tendencies, and better remember what each of them looked like also. They definitely wore light colored driving suits, and although Ludovico does resemble the fellow in the questioned picture, who is in dark pants, he looks quite a bit younger, etc. I was there and do I remember that that Bandini and Scarfiotti seemed to be very close friends, seemed to only speak Italian, and stuck quite closely together. Youtube has quite a few videos from this era -- some very good ones of the '66 and '67 Le Mans races also. Some good footage of the Chaparral 2F gobbling up Fords also. As to more pictures of this classic race, I remember Chris Economaki the automotive journalist/comentator was there and constantly snapping pictures. I had a borrowed camera with automatic exposure which left me with useless results. Regards to all. Revisiting the “who’s that guy behind Lorenzo Bandini” discussion, I stumbled on an interesting video on youtube. It’s titled “1967 24 Hours of Daytona – A Ferrari Sweep.” It’s a minute and a half long, and it’s very interesting showing some footage of all of our favorite cars. The second scene at just a few seconds into the video covers a pit area conversation between Bandini, Scarfiotti and a young lady with an attractive bow in her hair. The fellers are clowning around for her benefit, and give considerable opportunity to recall their 1967 lady chasing tendencies, and better remember what each of them looked like also. They definitely wore light colored driving suits, and although Ludovico does resemble the fellow in the questioned picture, who is in dark pants, he looks quite a bit younger, etc. I was there and do I remember that that Bandini and Scarfiotti seemed to be very close friends, seemed to only speak Italian, and stuck quite closely together. Youtube has quite a few videos from this era — some very good ones of the ’66 and ’67 Le Mans races also. Some good footage of the Chaparral 2F gobbling up Fords also. As to more pictures of this classic race, I remember Chris Economaki the automotive journalist/comentator was there and constantly snapping pictures. I had a borrowed camera with automatic exposure which left me with useless results. Regards to all.

]]> By: Jim Glickenhaushttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9295 Jim Glickenhaus Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:42:02 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9295 We did but we're very lucky to have experienced them firsthand. We did but we’re very lucky to have experienced them firsthand.

]]> By: Bill Gosserhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9276 Bill Gosser Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:15:06 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9276 Thanks for the info. Those were indeed the days-- as the song continues 'we thought they'd never end.' Thanks for the info. Those were indeed the days– as the song continues ‘we thought they’d never end.’

]]> By: Jim Glickenhaushttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9274 Jim Glickenhaus Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:54:51 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9274 The car Ken was killed in was a J Car which is different from a MK-IV. (Different diameter wheels, auto gearbox, different body work) Sad Day. The Sebring MK-IV (J4) was different in minor ways from the Le Mans MK-IV's. (J5/J6/J7/J8) Rounded sill vs squared sills, tail hinged at the front vs tails hinged at the rear.Those were the Days.Cheers The car Ken was killed in was a J Car which is different from a MK-IV. (Different diameter wheels, auto gearbox, different body work) Sad Day. The Sebring MK-IV (J4) was different in minor ways from the Le Mans MK-IV’s. (J5/J6/J7/J8) Rounded sill vs squared sills, tail hinged at the front vs tails hinged at the rear.

Those were the Days.

Cheers

]]> By: Bill Gosserhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9273 Bill Gosser Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:12:32 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9273 I'm enjoying this website. I concluded in favor of Scarfiotti based on my recollection of his skin tone at the race and a picture that I got by googling hiss name -- definitely not certain. I’m enjoying this website. I concluded in favor of Scarfiotti based on my recollection of his skin tone at the race and a picture that I got by googling hiss name — definitely not certain.

]]> By: Bill Gosserhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9272 Bill Gosser Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:57:50 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9272 Thanks Jim, I got confused between the GT40/MkII/MkIV designations. At the time of the race they referred to the latest version, the one that Ford had entered a dozen brand new cars, shipped in new semi trailers, with extra semi trailer's full of spares, lounge chairs and you name it, as the Ford Mk??, without including the GT or GT40 designations That confused me. After looking up the late Ken Miles on Wikipedia (interesting article), who was one of my childhood heroes, here in California sports car racing (remember #50?), it became clear. The J-car, which looped at Riverside Raceway killing Ken, was the precursor to the Mk IV, which may have came along a bit late for the 1967 Daytona Continental -- as you say. The very first sports car race that I ever saw was held at March AFB, quite near the Riverside Raceway. In those days the cars were divided at the 1500cc limit -- over and under. Porsches definitely ruled the under 1500cc class, but not that day as Ken Miles was there with his famous MG roadster #50, and he could leave any of his competition hopelessly in the dust. The over 1500cc class that day was ruled by the cars of none other than Briggs S. Cunningham -- I believe there were 3 of them. Briggs himself didn't win, but he did drive one of the cars very well -- I believe that he came in second, consistently breaking 150 mph on the long straightaway. The winner, though I can't remember the driver's name, was another Cunningham car. Not to be wise, but I noticed that the MK IV did win all of its races as you say, but there were "only two" of them. Amazingly to me these two races, were the 1967 12 Hours of Sebring and the 1967 24 Hours of Le Mans. In the SAME year and racing season as their disaster at Daytona. Having witnessed these events firsthand -- seeing this unbelieveably expensive effort on Ford's part, with BRAND NEW CARS, with an extended snout differing from that of the older GT40s, in my opinion -- it's nearly impossible to explain fielding all of these new cars, and hiring all of these big name drivers, when the MkIV was already available! Adding to that the unexplained shortage of photographs of the cars. Well, I just looked at a Mk IV photograph and you win -- it definately isn't the car that was raced at Daytona in 1967. Adding to the irony in all of this, Ken Miles actually won the 1966 24 Hr. Daytona Continental in a Ford GT40 MkII. He covered over 4100Km., setting a record that stood until Pedro Rodriguez arrived 4 years later in a Porsche 917K. Next he won at Sebring ('66), driving a prototype called a Ford GT-X1, that looks like something in between the Mk II and the Mk IV with a different engine. Next he and Denis Hulme managed second at Le Mans -- or was it a first? -- in a Mk II. After Ford's political maneuvering cost him the race, and the honor of winning Daytona, Sebring and Le Mans in the same year -- only to lose his life 2 months later. No conclusions, but interesting history. Regards...Probably Ford wasn't quire sure of the Mk IV, as yet since Ken's unfortunate accident in August, 1966. Thanks Jim, I got confused between the GT40/MkII/MkIV designations. At the time of the race they referred to the latest version, the one that Ford had entered a dozen brand new cars, shipped in new semi trailers, with extra semi trailer’s full of spares, lounge chairs and you name it, as the Ford Mk??, without including the GT or GT40 designations That confused me. After looking up the late Ken Miles on Wikipedia (interesting article), who was one of my childhood heroes, here in California sports car racing (remember #50?), it became clear. The J-car, which looped at Riverside Raceway killing Ken, was the precursor to the Mk IV, which may have came along a bit late for the 1967 Daytona Continental — as you say. The very first sports car race that I ever saw was held at March AFB, quite near the Riverside Raceway. In those days the cars were divided at the 1500cc limit — over and under. Porsches definitely ruled the under 1500cc class, but not that day as Ken Miles was there with his famous MG roadster #50, and he could leave any of his competition hopelessly in the dust. The over 1500cc class that day was ruled by the cars of none other than Briggs S. Cunningham — I believe there were 3 of them. Briggs himself didn’t win, but he did drive one of the cars very well — I believe that he came in second, consistently breaking 150 mph on the long straightaway. The winner, though I can’t remember the driver’s name, was another Cunningham car. Not to be wise, but I noticed that the MK IV did win all of its races as you say, but there were “only two” of them. Amazingly to me these two races, were the 1967 12 Hours of Sebring and the 1967 24 Hours of Le Mans. In the SAME year and racing season as their disaster at Daytona. Having witnessed these events firsthand — seeing this unbelieveably expensive effort on Ford’s part, with BRAND NEW CARS, with an extended snout differing from that of the older GT40s, in my opinion — it’s nearly impossible to explain fielding all of these new cars, and hiring all of these big name drivers, when the MkIV was already available! Adding to that the unexplained shortage of photographs of the cars. Well, I just looked at a Mk IV photograph and you win — it definately isn’t the car that was raced at Daytona in 1967. Adding to the irony in all of this, Ken Miles actually won the 1966 24 Hr. Daytona Continental in a Ford GT40 MkII. He covered over 4100Km., setting a record that stood until Pedro Rodriguez arrived 4 years later in a Porsche 917K. Next he won at Sebring (’66), driving a prototype called a Ford GT-X1, that looks like something in between the Mk II and the Mk IV with a different engine. Next he and Denis Hulme managed second at Le Mans — or was it a first? — in a Mk II. After Ford’s political maneuvering cost him the race, and the honor of winning Daytona, Sebring and Le Mans in the same year — only to lose his life 2 months later. No conclusions, but interesting history. Regards…

Probably Ford wasn’t quire sure of the Mk IV, as yet since Ken’s unfortunate accident in August, 1966.

]]> By: Jim Glickenhaushttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9267 Jim Glickenhaus Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:55:26 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9267 MK II's not MK IV's. The MK IV won every race it entered. (Sebring and Le Mans) MK II’s not MK IV’s. The MK IV won every race it entered. (Sebring and Le Mans)

]]> By: Bill Gosserhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-9265 Bill Gosser Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:52:08 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-9265 In my humble opinion, the gentleman behind Lorenzo (Bandini that is) is none other than Ludovico Scarfiotti, who was driving the #24 330 P4 at the end of the race -- placing 2nd. I can remember the finish line celebration well with both of them enjoying a great deal of champagne -- both internally and externally. There was very little chatter about Bandini, Scarfiotti, or even Ferrari until the last few laps of the race because there was so much shock and disbelief about the absence of the dominating Phil Hill Chaparral 2F which had to retire after hitting something on the back straight. causing suspension failure. It would be sour grapes on my part, were it not for the utterly fantastic performance of that Chaparral 2F. In addition, there was also disbelief because of the disappearance of the ENTIRE Ford Mk IV fleet. The reports seem to differ, but they were all in the pits with broken transmission shafts -- at least that's what the news of the day was. I had a pit pass and I saw them there, and saw some of the broken parts. They had more spare parts than a Ford dealership, but not the transmission shafts that they needed I guess that's what endurance races are all about... I almost collided head on with Dan Gurney while walking by their pit area -- He wasn't enjoying himself at all. In my humble opinion, the gentleman behind Lorenzo (Bandini that is) is none other than Ludovico Scarfiotti, who was driving the #24 330 P4 at the end of the race — placing 2nd. I can remember the finish line celebration well with both of them enjoying a great deal of champagne — both internally and externally. There was very little chatter about Bandini, Scarfiotti, or even Ferrari until the last few laps of the race because there was so much shock and disbelief about the absence of the dominating Phil Hill Chaparral 2F which had to retire after hitting something on the back straight. causing suspension failure. It would be sour grapes on my part, were it not for the utterly fantastic performance of that Chaparral 2F. In addition, there was also disbelief because of the disappearance of the ENTIRE Ford Mk IV fleet. The reports seem to differ, but they were all in the pits with broken transmission shafts — at least that’s what the news of the day was. I had a pit pass and I saw them there, and saw some of the broken parts. They had more spare parts than a Ford dealership, but not the transmission shafts that they needed I guess that’s what endurance races are all about… I almost collided head on with Dan Gurney while walking by their pit area — He wasn’t enjoying himself at all.

]]> By: Ian Monastyrskihttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-7374 Ian Monastyrski Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:44:39 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-7374 Dear Sir, Thank you for these archive shots. Where would we be without them!!!! Keep up the good work. Best regards. Dear Sir, Thank you for these archive shots. Where would we be without them!!!!
Keep up the good work.
Best regards.

]]> By: Jim Levensonhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-7123 Jim Levenson Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:04:53 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-7123 As I told Gil, sorry for the long delay in responding. I have hundreds upon hundreds (maybe thousands)of auto & auto racing photos I have taken over the years. Unfortunatly they are boxed up with the thousands of other photos I have. The photos of this race were nothing more than snap shots taken with a box camera. If I can ever dig them out you are welcome to publish them.Jim As I told Gil, sorry for the long delay in responding. I have hundreds upon hundreds (maybe thousands)of auto & auto racing photos I have taken over the years. Unfortunatly they are boxed up with the thousands of other photos I have. The photos of this race were nothing more than snap shots taken with a box camera. If I can ever dig them out you are welcome to publish them.

Jim

]]> By: Jim Levensonhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-7122 Jim Levenson Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:57:55 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-7122 Gil,Sorry for the long delay in responding. I haven't followed this thread and just now stumbled back on it. Yes I do still live in Lexington. If you will go to the Keeneland Concours d'Elegance website www.keenelandconcours.com and look under entry nomination s you will find all my contact info.Jim Gil,

Sorry for the long delay in responding. I haven’t followed this thread and just now stumbled back on it. Yes I do still live in Lexington. If you will go to the Keeneland Concours d’Elegance website http://www.keenelandconcours.com and look under entry nomination s you will find all my contact info.

Jim

]]> By: Mariohttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-5019 Mario Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:22:03 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-5019 For Chaparral and other cars n race see: www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276435807 www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276276739also includes Bandini and Scarfiotti For Chaparral and other cars n race see:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276435807
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smuckatelli/3276276739

also includes Bandini and Scarfiotti

]]> By: Sports Car Digesthttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-4737 Sports Car Digest Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:41:13 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-4737 The follow-up story has one picture of the 2F and a couple of the Chaparral 2D. Here is the link:http://www.sportscardigest.com/archives/3177 The follow-up story has one picture of the 2F and a couple of the Chaparral 2D. Here is the link:

http://www.sportscardigest.com/archives/3177

]]> By: DJ Martinhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-4692 DJ Martin Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:19:28 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-4692 How come there are no pictures of the Chaparral 2F? This was the 1st race where the high-winged Chaparral would take part. It turned in some fast times before retiring with teething problems. How come there are no pictures of the Chaparral 2F? This was the 1st race where the high-winged Chaparral would take part. It turned in some fast times before retiring with teething problems.

]]> By: Sports Car Digesthttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-4402 Sports Car Digest Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:26:53 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-4402 Jim - what a great story. Thanks for sharing. Let us know if you ever locate those pictures! We would love to share with our readers. Jim – what a great story. Thanks for sharing. Let us know if you ever locate those pictures! We would love to share with our readers.

]]> By: Gilhttp://www.sportscardigest.com/1967-24-hours-of-daytona-photo-gallery/#comment-4394 Gil Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:56:09 +0000 http://www.sportscardigest.com/?p=2978#comment-4394 Jim,Are you still in KY? I am in Louisville. Those photos need to see the light of day and be shared. This kind of history is so valuable.Gil Jim,

Are you still in KY? I am in Louisville. Those photos need to see the light of day and be shared. This kind of history is so valuable.

Gil

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